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American Airlines order after-thoughts

July 20, 2011 100 comments

It will take a while to absorb all the information that’s been released on the massive AA deal with Airbus and Boeing, and to learn data yet to come, but here are some initial thoughts:

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American press conference on huge order

July 20, 2011 9 comments

Running comments from the American Airlines press conference:

Tom Horton

  • Today is a transformational day for American.
  • American’s order presentation, 19 page PDF: AMR Aircraft
  • With this plan we are jumping to the front of the line and will be ahead of our peers.
  • We will have the youngest fleet of our peers.
  • We will lower our costs with this modern fleet.

American orders: Airbus, 260; Boeing, 200

July 20, 2011 25 comments

American Airlines this morning announced its blockbusting order that has been the subject of international intrigue since the Paris Air Show. The order is comprised of:

  • 260 A320 family airplanes from Airbus plus 365, with conversions rights within the family;
  •  100 737NGs and 100 737REs from Boeing and 100 options; and
  • Engines from CFM for the 737RE; the press release is silent on the engine selection for the NEO; Airbus tells us the engine is to be determined.

Here is the press release.

Dominic Gates of The Seattle Times has this story about the last-minute flurry of activity by Boeing to save the day.

There are a couple of interesting references in the Gates article:

  • We had reported Monday that Boeing’s timeline for the New Small Airplane was moving to the right to the 2020-2025 decade, being closer to 2020. On Tuesday we reported that this date is 2021. Gates reports 2022 and that this is just a “placeholder” date, which could move to the right.
  • The 737RE was characterized as a ‘paper’ airplane. Indeed, we have learned that Boeing is still massaging design details. It remains to be decided if Boeing will go with a 70-inch fan that will require more work statement for the airframe, including changes to the nose gear, or if it will go with a 66-inch fan that will eliminate the need for nose gear modifications, reduce the R&D costs but will trade off fuel efficiency slightly and be noisier than the 70-inch fan.

American’s order, as we see it

July 19, 2011 40 comments
  • Note: It’s impossible to keep up with the changing and leaking information. Just do a Google News search for the latest.

The situation today remains fluid and often contradictory. News stories, and our own information, agree that a split order is coming from American with Airbus and Boeing but contradictory information is flying about as to which company comes out with the majority of the orders.

But here’s the outcome, as we see it:

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American to announce big order Wednesday

July 19, 2011 12 comments

Flightblogger confirms American will announce a big single-aisle order Wednesday.

We understand it will be a split between Airbus and Boeing. We think we have a basic understanding of the broad details but not yet solid enough to go into print. We’re working on it.

Wednesday is also American’s 2Q earnings call. The announcement is expected before the call, so expect lots of conversation on the call. The webcast information is here.

 

 

 

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