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PW GTF-CFM LEAP market share

February 15, 2012 Leave a comment Go to comments

AirInsight has an interesting analysis of the market share of the GTF vs the LEAP on the A320neo family. This was completed while the Singapore Air Show was underway and orders still being announced.

The analysis only covers the neo family, where there is competition between CFM International and Pratt & Whitney. CFM is exclusive on the Boeing 737 and COMAC C919 and PW is exclusive on the Mitsubishi MRJ and the Bombardier CSeries. PW shares the engine supply position on the Irkut MS21 with a Russian powerplant.

Thus, the neo family competition provides a better snapshot of how the two engines stack up in the view of customers.

A couple of points of note for the AirInsight analysis: GECAS buys only GE engines, so PW had no chance in this exclusive-supplier scenario; and Republic’s CFM selection was part of a financial rescue package involving GECAS (which leases A319s and A320s with CFM engines to Republic subsidiary Frontier Airlines) and CFM (which restructured CFM maintenance agreements). We detailed the Republic order at the time. We also wrote this piece about how the GE powerhouse combines to win deals. The family deal with GECAS and the rescue package for Republic account for 280 of the 533 LEAP engines ordered to-date.

Separately, we’ve been provided some diagrams by CFM for publication about the LEAP and how its architecture and technology benefit from the GE90 and GEnx. These illustrations are below the jump.

  1. February 15, 2012 at 9:08 am | #1

    Thanks
    No Leap intenal stage count available on those slides !

  2. Uwe
    February 15, 2012 at 9:48 am | #2

    So they seem undecided how many fan blades the LEAP will have?

    Ref for the diagram is CFM56-_5b_ which would indicate targeting of
    Airbus customers or the LEAP family in general ?

    “.. operating at lower temps than GE90/GENX”

    Isn’t that valid for all NB engines in comparison to typical WB engines?

  3. KC135TopBoom
    February 15, 2012 at 9:49 am | #3

    It is not listed, but I thought the LEAP-1A engine had a TAPS-II combuster, and improvement over the TAPS combuster of the GEnx-2B.

    • February 15, 2012 at 11:50 am | #4

      Could well be in another slide we have not seen…

    • February 15, 2012 at 7:39 pm | #5

      Hi KC i think you will like this one “Airbus A380 told to change aluminum rivets for titanium ones on the airframe” Bloomburg news.

      • Uwe
        February 16, 2012 at 12:20 am | #6

        Interesting damage scenario.

        Bloomberg: “6 rivetes.. ..could give below ultimate load.. ..could lead to in-flight loss of the radome in case of rapid decompression,…”

  4. FF
    February 15, 2012 at 2:59 pm | #7

    With the exception you noted of GECAS, I believe leasing companies have bought more PurePower than LEAP. I speculate that the GTF is the technically more interesting product, while GE/CFM offer the more attractive finance package. The latter kicks in on direct sales but not so much on leases.

    • February 15, 2012 at 8:58 pm | #8

      And with the exception of GECAS, the lessors have so far split their orders in favor of GTF.

  5. keesje
    February 16, 2012 at 4:20 am | #9

    GE promotes “Direct Drive” as LEAP technology for high durability and reliability..
    :D

  6. Uwe
    February 17, 2012 at 8:35 am | #10

    Uwe :
    Interesting damage scenario.
    Bloomberg: “6 rivetes.. ..could give below ultimate load.. ..could lead to in-flight loss of the radome in case of rapid decompression,…”

    Apropos:
    Radio news here reported that Airbus had already handed out change advisories to customers some time ago. The issue was found via _internal_ design revue. ( not EASA )

    • February 18, 2012 at 10:52 am | #11

      Problem sloved? eny news from the 787 tail shimmy problem?.

      • KC135TopBoom
        February 18, 2012 at 3:00 pm | #12

        I don’t think the cracks in the rib/wing join ‘feet’ is solved until the cracked ‘feet’ have been replaced (hopefully a new design and material), and Airbus is assured the same problem won’t happen again to the remaining current designed ‘feet”. Then the question is who pays for all of this? Airbus? Customers/airlines?

        Last I heard on the tail shim problem on the B-787 is the fix is being accomplished on airplanes still at Boeing. The airplanes already delivered to NH have shown no signs of this problem, nor is it on every airplane at Boeing. That makes it sound like a QA problem from a subcontractor. But, I really don’t know.

  7. CM
    February 18, 2012 at 5:33 pm | #13

    KC135TopBoom :
    That makes it sound like a QA problem from a subcontractor. But, I really don’t know.

    Boeing has already said the error occurred at their South Carolina integration site. At one point that operation was a supplier joint venture, but is now a wholly owned Boeing facility. This error was caused by Boeing production employees.

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